ME2 Effect on ME3 Spoiler Q-G peace requires that you get at least 3 points in ME2, which can be gained from any combination of the following: ME2 Spoiler Although the Tali/Legion fight that is usually later in the game also has this re-try at loyalty, be aware that you only get quarian-geth peace points for persuading both on the very first try in the argument, not after. ***Regarding another squadmate fight with the same issue (but even higher Paragon/Renegade thresholds, spoilers for their loyalty missions, and ME3*** Make sure that Kasumi/Mordin/Tali are all either escorting the Normandy crew or on the final boss fight with you. Jack is more difficult to keep alive but can still easily be done provided practically everybody else is loyal.ĭon't assign Jack to any tasks (although she won't die if making the bubble, someone else in the squad will). If she is disloyal, just make sure she is the only one, leave her with Hold The Line along with at least two of Garrus/Grunt/Zaeed, and make sure that loyal squishy squadmates were sent to escort the crew or go to the final boss (Mordin, Tali, Jack, Kasumi). Miranda has absurd levels of plot armor on this mission, cannot be killed for failing tasks, and cannot die until the boss fight / hold the line. Other than that, though, there is no negative consequence in ME3 for Jack or Miranda being disloyal (after losing it in the fight loyalty mission still counts).Īs for surviving the suicide mission (spoilers if you haven't played it yet or haven't recruited everyone in ME2): Side against one of them will permanently block any romance plotline with them.
This re-try Paragon/Renegade conversation stays active even if you back out of the conversation to try again later. The Paragon/Renegade thresholds for that later conversation are different than for the fight and depend on the squadmate. Letting Koris die isn't a smart decision anyways, you lose 75 war assets.Note that you can recover the loyalty of whoever you didn't side with by talking to them after the fight. To do this, you must have a high enough Reputation. To save Koris, Shepard must refuse his orders to leave him. (+1 point) Saving Admiral Koris during Rannoch: Admiral Koris. (+1 point) Completing Rannoch: Admiral Koris. In order to secure both loyalties, Shepard must have a high enough Paragon/Renegade score and must choose either charm or intimidate. Choosing a side during this arguement will NOT give you the point, and the losing side in the argument will not be loyal (which will likely get them killed anyways). (+1 point) After both loyalty missions are complete, Legion and Tali will have an arguement. The option is only available if Veetor was returned to the Fleet instead of Cerberus on Freedom's Progress and Kal'Reegar survived Haestrom. The way save Tali from exile is to either use charm/intimidate in the hearing or, if Shepard spoke to the Admirals about their motivations, Veetor and Kal'Reegar are present, and Shepard asked them for their help before leaving for the Alarei, Shepard can rally the crowd. If the loyalty mission is completed successfuly and Tali is NOT exiled, 2 points are earned.
If you present the evidence, Tali is exiled. (+2 points) In Tali's loyalty mission (Tali: Treason), there is a chance to fail. Destroying them is the right choice here. (+2 points) In Legion's loyalty mission (Legion: A House Divided), your final decision comes down to either rewriting the heretics, or destroying them. In order to achieve peace, you must have 5 points. Achieving peace uses a point system that determines your ability to make peace from ME2 and ME3 decisions.
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